0:00: Hey team, so this week on the Health Best podcast,, I'm going to talk about how fixing the owner can fix the business and how we move avatars from red to yellow to green.

0:14: And understanding that someone's nature in, let's say, one of the yellow avatars can still hang around even if they're doing all the things and all the actions that a green avatar can do.

0:28: So, if you ever feel like your mentees or clients are making progress, but they still slip back into old habits, it's not so much failure, it's part of the process.

0:37: So, We just want to talk about,, you know, just because someone is green, it doesn't doesn't mean that, you know, it's set and forget, and that the work is done.

0:47: And so, we need to figure out how to consistently move mentees from those red and yellow to green avatars.

0:56: And then, why even that green avatars can sometimes swerve and how we can manage those things.

1:02: And then looking at mentorship as one big habits-based challenge.

1:09: So, we all know green avatars are those, you know, dialed, eager and classic avatars, where the client is focused, they're consistent, and they're making progress.

1:17: And we know that the yellow flat and stalled avatars, the client is moving a little bit, but they lack direction or confidence, and they're stuck in cycles of inconsistency.

1:29: And then that red avatar where, you know, the person's overwhelmed, they're resistant to change, and they're sabotaging their own progress.

1:36: So, it's just important to remember that even when a mentee gets to the green level, they can still maintain some of those old habits, some of those right side habits,, they can linger around.

1:49: So, we cannot change who someone is quickly.

1:53: And it's important to realize that.

1:54: So real change happens through the mintes consistent action and guidance.

1:59: So, mentorship is a lot like fitness, so results are step by step, brick by brick.

2:04: It's not about one-time fixes or, you know, repeating poor habits.

2:10: It's about making sure that we can stack good habits on top of more good habits.

2:15: So, if we take the example of the recent Golden hour challenge, you know, it's just with higher accountability, more frequent course correction for the mentee, and some deeper reflection on their habits.

2:27: So, we often say, fix the owner, fix the business.

2:30: And it really is true that if the owner changes, the business will follow suit, and it's more to do with the mindset shift that happens over months and years in that mentee that actually gets the business moving forward.

2:42: So what we're really looking to do is rewire the Minte thought process and strip away those self-sabotaging tendencies they've carried around, probably their whole lives.

2:50: So, going from red to yellow,, starting with those things like small wins, simple, clear priorities, and building trust, and then going from yellow to green is, you know, making sure that we're tying things back to their goals, and it's something personal, and that we're holding them accountable, and then celebrating their wins.

3:11: So, that's absolutely huge that we can do that, but we need to realize that it's not linear, it's not a linear process.

3:16: Someone could go from red to green.

3:19: And the thing to realize is that those red tendencies can hang around.

3:23: So, what does it look like if a client is green?

3:26: So they're taking action, but they still have some of those swerving tendencies.

3:30: So they might look dialed in, but they overcommit, they procrastinate, and they bounce between ideas.

3:36: It's not really aggression, it's more residue from their previous avatar, and I think that hangs around in everybody.

3:44: Why it happens...

In this episode, we tackle a common challenge for mentors: navigating conversations when clients bring up personal struggles that take the focus off their business. You'll learn how to acknowledge their feelings empathetically, pivot the conversation back to actionable business strategies, and use simple phrases to refocus on what you can control. By staying in your role as a business mentor, you’ll help clients achieve the results they need while still showing care and support.

How to Pivot the Conversation (2-3 minutes)

• Use Future-Focused Questions:
• "What’s one thing we can work on today to help you feel more in control?"
• "How can we make sure your business feels like a source of stability while you’re dealing with this?"
• Redirect to Actionable Steps:
• "Let’s focus on something we can change right now—what’s the top priority in your business today?"
• "I know this is a tough time, but let’s make sure your business is supporting you. Where do you feel stuck right now?"

Short Phrases for Refocusing (1-2 minutes)

• Share these go-to lines:
• "I can see how much this is affecting you. Let’s focus on making your business as strong as possible so it can support you through this."
• "That’s really tough. Let’s make sure we’re taking steps today to give you peace of mind on the business side."
• "I can’t imagine how hard that is, but let’s focus on what we can control right now in your business."

Hey everyone, welcome to this quick cast. Today I want to talk about something that's not often said out loud, but I think it's very powerful when we are on our mentee calls and our goal is to deliver results, and that is that as business mentors, our role is not to be liked, is to help our clients get results, and that sometimes means having tough, honest conversations, just like in our business, our role is not to be liked by everyone, by our clients, but to make the best decisions that serve our business and our team

and as business mentors, we wear a very specific hat. We are there to guide, challenge and help our clients succeed, but our value isn't measured in how much people like like us. It's measured by the results that we help them achieve. And in fact, there is this dialog I always have running in the back of my mind when I'm on mentee calls and I'm about to say something challenging or direct, and it goes something like this, my role here isn't to be their friend or to sugar coat things, to hold them accountable to their goals and deliver results. If they want a friend, that's fine, but mentorship, that's a different thing, and I think that it's also like important to nurture our relationships outside of our businesses and outside of our roles as mentors, so that we don't have this craving to be liked in every aspect of our life, because it's unrealistic.

So I think that one last thing that I want to give you this week is the difference between being kind and being nice. Being nice often looks like telling people what they want to hear. It feels good in the moment, but it doesn't move the needle. And being kind, on the other hand, means telling people what they need to hear, even if it's uncomfortable, it means framing back, framing back what I told you, framing feedback in a way that's constructive, but it's not sugar coated. It's direct. Think of it as think of being kind versus being nice. This way being kind is about serving their growth, not their ego.

So how do we actually navigate those situations when we need to have hard conversations? Or how do I do it first I check in with myself and remind myself my role here is to help them grow, even if it feels uncomfortable and it's okay to feel uncomfortable. It's a normal human emotion.

It's okay to have the urge of being liked, also very human. And then I just tell myself, how human of me to want to be liked, but I still want to do the right thing for the role that I'm here to do and to execute. Then I try to approach the conversation with empathy but clarity. I acknowledge their effort or progress, but then pivot, pivot to the heart through its so.

So for example, I see that you are working hard on delivering these client classes, but these current strategies isn't getting closer to your goal. I had a similar conversation with a gym from the UK that weren't growing because they didn't want to let go of group coaching. They were charging very little money for it, and they were complaining that they don't have the time energy resources to offer more PT, more semi private training, and then we had to have this conversation of, why are they basing their decisions based on fear, not on what they said they wanted to do? And the hard word is that they're sticking to the wrong thing. And so this way, I hope at least I show them that I care about them, but I'm also focused on what they said that they want to achieve.

And so results matter more than being liked.

And it doesn't mean that we can't build great relationships with our clients, but it's important to remember that the safety of being liked or making friends is something we save for other roles in our life, like our family, our personal relationships or our social circle, and in mentorship, our role is to be the guide people need, not the friend they want, because the truth...